Stepping On Toes

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Really?

There are other implications. By extending a hand to HTML5 Microsoft will move ahead adoption of the standard in a large way. The better HTML5 does, the worse Flash does, given their tendancy [sic] to step on each other’s toes at every turn.

By most accounts, I think HTML5 has never been better. Wider browser support, a lot of momentum. But the same can be said for Flash. Flash Player 10 was the most quickly adopted Flash Player version yet.

Maybe HTML5 and Flash aren’t stepping on each other’s toes as much as pushing everyone forward.

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  • John Heida, Jr.

    Do you even read your comments?

  • ryanstewart

    Yup. And this week I’ve been trying to be a lot better about responding to them.

  • James

    What I would really like to know is why everyone on his comments believes that flash is only used for video and none of us are doing RIA what so ever which is why Silverlight is better? Id rather know all three and use the one that fits my needs the best not debate which one will die first because of some other new obscure technology.

  • http://www.syncrare.com/ Ken Azuma

    Even runtime is great, if there is no tooling for development, platform failed.

    In this perspective, HTML5 is not real one yet for me.

  • ryanstewart

    @James, there is a ton of ignorance around Flash. Ignorance or FUD.

    @Ken, Tools are a huge, huge part. Once HTML5 becomes less of a moving target, I think you’ll see a lot of tools. But right now, there’s too much movement to spend a 12 or 18 month development cycle on HTML5 tools that could be obsolete half-way into the cycle.

    =Ryan
    ryan@adobe.com

  • John Heida, Jr.

    oh ok – you just don’t answer email, my error…

  • Ross R

    There are a lot of plain old lies about Flash out there. The whole idea that HTML5 video is less processor-intensive has already been debunked (though not quite on the Mac – as Apple won’t open up hooks into hardware decoding).

    Though, HTML5 is a complete spec too, and some very impressive RIA applications, and games, have already been built in it. I note a gorgeous drawing application I found a couple weeks ago on the Chrome experiments site, as well as a fun space shooter.

    Regardless, why is this even an argument? Why is it that people can say that an incomplete spec that only works as a standard for less than 20% of the world population (FF uses a different spec for video than the rest, removing it from my calculation) has already “killed Flash”

  • ryanstewart

    @John Which email? I’m usually pretty good but it sometimes takes me a long time.

    @Ross because everyone needs a bad guy. It helps rally the troops. In this case, it’s Flash.

    =Ryan
    ryan@adobe.com

  • John Heida, Jr.

    My level of frustration is very high when it comes to all things Adobe…

    I had sent an email to your ryan[at]adobe[dot]com address, and sent a message on your Facebook account, but if I can elicit some assistance here, that’s fine too.

    I spent a number of hours last week trying to reach someone at Adobe who a)could address some questions with certifications and b)was located in the united states. Item b) is crucial, because otherwise one only receives idiotic, scripted responses, that may or may not even address the question. As it appears that ALL customer service for Adobe has been outsourced and multiple receptionists at the San Jose headquarters do not even know what certification is, I have been trying to find a new point of contact before giving up on this entirely.

    According to Adobe’s own website (http://www.adobe.com/support/certification/community.html), “Adobe will e-mail you with the details about new exams as well as a reminder of when your certification is due for renewal.” I have received zero notification of a recertification exam being available on Flash CS4. Although I don’t plan on using many of the features in the bloated Flash CS4, I was considering maintaining my certification status in Flash. According to the (again outsourced) company that verifies certifications, my current Flash CS3 ACE certification has no expiration date. If I am unable to reach a knowledgable, direct employee of Adobe (there used to be a few, but apparently they were laid off), I am considering my current credentials to be in effect in perpetuity.