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	<title>Comments on: Thoughts on the &#8220;Flash on the iPhone&#8221; News</title>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4957</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my french, but the Flash player on Mac OS X is a mess. It sucks huge performance and every time I play a video on Youtube the fans spin like crazy (on my Macbook Pro, non the less). And I don&#039;t even dare play it in full screen.

Watching a HD Quicktime video full screen is no problem, all the fans stay quiet.

If Apple wanted Flash on the iPhone, they wouldn&#039;t have bothered with Youtube re-encoding everything as H.264. They care about the performance of their little device and don&#039;t want no Flash player messing it up.

Further reasoning is here: http://daringfireball.net/2008/02/news_flash_no_flash</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my french, but the Flash player on Mac OS X is a mess. It sucks huge performance and every time I play a video on Youtube the fans spin like crazy (on my Macbook Pro, non the less). And I don&#8217;t even dare play it in full screen.</p>
<p>Watching a HD Quicktime video full screen is no problem, all the fans stay quiet.</p>
<p>If Apple wanted Flash on the iPhone, they wouldn&#8217;t have bothered with Youtube re-encoding everything as H.264. They care about the performance of their little device and don&#8217;t want no Flash player messing it up.</p>
<p>Further reasoning is here: <a href="http://daringfireball.net/2008/02/news_flash_no_flash" rel="nofollow">http://daringfireball.net/2008/02/news_flash_no_flash</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jamie McDaniel</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4956</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie McDaniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 02:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems someone from the Wall Street Journal reads your blog, Ryan. I don&#039;t have access to the whole article, but they listed your name in the preview.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120355422624881585.html?mod=yahoo_hs&amp;ru=yahoo&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Adobe, Apple Hit Flash Point&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems someone from the Wall Street Journal reads your blog, Ryan. I don&#8217;t have access to the whole article, but they listed your name in the preview.<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120355422624881585.html?mod=yahoo_hs&amp;ru=yahoo" rel="nofollow">Adobe, Apple Hit Flash Point</a></p>
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		<title>By: Inav Grobov</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4955</link>
		<dc:creator>Inav Grobov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today has asked the friend about support by iphone of Flash. He has told that officially does not support (http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/12/its-official-no-flash-support-on-the-iphone-yet/) and its phone has broken in 2 months. He bought iphone in the USA, and itself has unblocked.
Excuse for my English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today has asked the friend about support by iphone of Flash. He has told that officially does not support (<a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/12/its-official-no-flash-support-on-the-iphone-yet/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/12/its-official-no-flash-support-on-the-iphone-yet/</a>) and its phone has broken in 2 months. He bought iphone in the USA, and itself has unblocked.<br />
Excuse for my English.</p>
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		<title>By: Just Browsing &#187; Flash on the iPhone?&#8230; Probably Not</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4954</link>
		<dc:creator>Just Browsing &#187; Flash on the iPhone?&#8230; Probably Not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] around the corner. Ryan Stewart, who works for Adobe, doesn&#8217;t rule out the possibility but says on his blog that &#8220;I assume someone at the high levels of Adobe knows what the status is but I don&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] around the corner. Ryan Stewart, who works for Adobe, doesn&#8217;t rule out the possibility but says on his blog that &#8220;I assume someone at the high levels of Adobe knows what the status is but I don&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ola Muldal</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4953</link>
		<dc:creator>Ola Muldal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is certain, *when* a popular phone supports Flash Player 9, it will set a new standard, and there is tons of AS developers ready to deploy to mobile phones. It should be in Adobe&#039;s interest to get this out as soon as possible, to get a grip on this market. Flash Lite is just to tedious (atleast is was in the past, havent really had time to look at FL3, with AIR and all going on atm).

If I could just use my existing AS3 skills for mobilephones, I would have built several apps and sites for mobiles already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is certain, *when* a popular phone supports Flash Player 9, it will set a new standard, and there is tons of AS developers ready to deploy to mobile phones. It should be in Adobe&#8217;s interest to get this out as soon as possible, to get a grip on this market. Flash Lite is just to tedious (atleast is was in the past, havent really had time to look at FL3, with AIR and all going on atm).</p>
<p>If I could just use my existing AS3 skills for mobilephones, I would have built several apps and sites for mobiles already.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Keefe</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4952</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Keefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be one of the many Flash developers that would love to see the iPhone get Flash support, but I just don&#039;t see it happening in secret, unless the higher people are involved, but like Keith said, it really is a moot point.

That being said, I wonder if/when Flash comes to the iPhone if they will be able to use the multitouch abilities, that would be pretty cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be one of the many Flash developers that would love to see the iPhone get Flash support, but I just don&#8217;t see it happening in secret, unless the higher people are involved, but like Keith said, it really is a moot point.</p>
<p>That being said, I wonder if/when Flash comes to the iPhone if they will be able to use the multitouch abilities, that would be pretty cool.</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4951</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 04:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Skyfire, I researched them recently, but the only thing I see in the public record is this, in their FAQ:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;(Q) Seriously, how does Skyfire do all of this?
&quot;(A)  The only way we can tell you this is if you join our team.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
http://www.skyfire.com/product/faq

I know Opera had a server transcoder in the past, but I haven&#039;t heard of rendering SWF on the server and delivering graphics to the client... might be, I just haven&#039;t happened to hear, myself.

jd/adobe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Skyfire, I researched them recently, but the only thing I see in the public record is this, in their FAQ:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;(Q) Seriously, how does Skyfire do all of this?<br />
&#8220;(A)  The only way we can tell you this is if you join our team.&#8221;</em><br />
<a href="http://www.skyfire.com/product/faq" rel="nofollow">http://www.skyfire.com/product/faq</a></p>
<p>I know Opera had a server transcoder in the past, but I haven&#8217;t heard of rendering SWF on the server and delivering graphics to the client&#8230; might be, I just haven&#8217;t happened to hear, myself.</p>
<p>jd/adobe</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4962</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note, how do these mobile browsers work? Specifically the new Opera 9.5 and Skyfire browsers for mobile phones. They decode FL3 video, so, do they have to license technology from Adobe for this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a side note, how do these mobile browsers work? Specifically the new Opera 9.5 and Skyfire browsers for mobile phones. They decode FL3 video, so, do they have to license technology from Adobe for this?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Fendall</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4961</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Fendall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 01:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. There&#039;s no way that Apple could build their own flash player independantly of Adobe.  If they did, it would never be completly consistent, and that would be a disaster for all of us in the long term...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. There&#8217;s no way that Apple could build their own flash player independantly of Adobe.  If they did, it would never be completly consistent, and that would be a disaster for all of us in the long term&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stewart</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/thoughts-on-the-flash-on-the-iphone-news/comment-page-1/#comment-4960</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, everyone I talk to doesn&#039;t know anything. And I have no idea how Apple would implement it but if anything is happening it&#039;s happening at a really high level and that&#039;s because it all rests with Cupertino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, everyone I talk to doesn&#8217;t know anything. And I have no idea how Apple would implement it but if anything is happening it&#8217;s happening at a really high level and that&#8217;s because it all rests with Cupertino.</p>
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