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	<title>Comments on: Google Docs == Fail but Google Docs + Adobe AIR == Win</title>
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		<title>By: Andre Charland</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5028</link>
		<dc:creator>Andre Charland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where&#039;s the AIR version of Buzzword that saves to my desktop and the cloud?

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where&#8217;s the AIR version of Buzzword that saves to my desktop and the cloud?<br />
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5027</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can still open that same document up in the browser, but by going outside of it you can get around what the browser doesn&#039;t support.&quot;

I just see an issue with saving your AIR docs back to Google docs, at least with the current implementation as the additional functionality that AIR provides would then be useless to share back to Google docs without changes to Google docs that would probably make the point of the AIR docs application moot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can still open that same document up in the browser, but by going outside of it you can get around what the browser doesn&#8217;t support.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just see an issue with saving your AIR docs back to Google docs, at least with the current implementation as the additional functionality that AIR provides would then be useless to share back to Google docs without changes to Google docs that would probably make the point of the AIR docs application moot.</p>
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		<title>By: Jolyon Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jolyon Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, for him it fails, but the point to remember is that Office and Google Docs are not and will never be the same product and when it comes to software to &quot;win&quot; you don&#039;t always have to be better. Microsoft vs Apple?

Sure Office has a longer feature list, but for most people Google Docs will do everything they need it to do right now. At the end of the day the additional features of storing/sharing your files in the cloud will eventually be the one feature that everyone wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, for him it fails, but the point to remember is that Office and Google Docs are not and will never be the same product and when it comes to software to &#8220;win&#8221; you don&#8217;t always have to be better. Microsoft vs Apple?</p>
<p>Sure Office has a longer feature list, but for most people Google Docs will do everything they need it to do right now. At the end of the day the additional features of storing/sharing your files in the cloud will eventually be the one feature that everyone wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stewart</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5026</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Google Docs is going to fail, but that was the snappy headline from the comment and based on the author&#039;s points, it does fail for him and Adobe AIR would help that an awful lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Google Docs is going to fail, but that was the snappy headline from the comment and based on the author&#8217;s points, it does fail for him and Adobe AIR would help that an awful lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Tink</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5024</link>
		<dc:creator>Tink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Docs == Fail

Thats quite a strong statement. I think quite a few people would disagree with that.

Yes, they might welcome the additional functionality that AIR could bring, but without that functionality it definitely doesn&#039;t mean that the product fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Docs == Fail</p>
<p>Thats quite a strong statement. I think quite a few people would disagree with that.</p>
<p>Yes, they might welcome the additional functionality that AIR could bring, but without that functionality it definitely doesn&#8217;t mean that the product fails.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stewart</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5025</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jolyon I don&#039;t think Google would do it because it isn&#039;t really in their MO. They&#039;ve chosen instead to work within the browser and with some of the browser vendors to enhance the functionality. But with the browsers marketshare starting to become even more fractured, that doesn&#039;t seem like a solution that can work all that well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jolyon I don&#8217;t think Google would do it because it isn&#8217;t really in their MO. They&#8217;ve chosen instead to work within the browser and with some of the browser vendors to enhance the functionality. But with the browsers marketshare starting to become even more fractured, that doesn&#8217;t seem like a solution that can work all that well.</p>
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		<title>By: InstaBlog</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5022</link>
		<dc:creator>InstaBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 13:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Flex and&#160;AIR&#8230;...&lt;/strong&gt;

Chanced upon an interesting blog post about Google Docs on ReadWriteWebÂ that evoked some equally interesting responses. One commentator in particular was very vociferous on how Google docs fails the cut  in so many basic ways. To this, Ryan Stewart of...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Flex and&nbsp;AIR&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Chanced upon an interesting blog post about Google Docs on ReadWriteWebÂ that evoked some equally interesting responses. One commentator in particular was very vociferous on how Google docs fails the cut  in so many basic ways. To this, Ryan Stewart of&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joen</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5029</link>
		<dc:creator>Joen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 11:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, long time reader.

Great writeup. I have been hoping for &quot;advanced versions&quot; of Gmail and Docs for ages now, and I do believe AIR can deliver that.

Recently, however, I&#039;ve begun to think that it&#039;s about betting on the right horses, see who wins.

I wrote some thoughts on that on my blog:

http://www.noscope.com/journal/2008/02/not-sitting-in-a-tree</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, long time reader.</p>
<p>Great writeup. I have been hoping for &#8220;advanced versions&#8221; of Gmail and Docs for ages now, and I do believe AIR can deliver that.</p>
<p>Recently, however, I&#8217;ve begun to think that it&#8217;s about betting on the right horses, see who wins.</p>
<p>I wrote some thoughts on that on my blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.noscope.com/journal/2008/02/not-sitting-in-a-tree" rel="nofollow">http://www.noscope.com/journal/2008/02/not-sitting-in-a-tree</a></p>
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		<title>By: Abdul Qabiz</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5020</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdul Qabiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have not read Karim&#039;s comment. I love desktop softwares, since we have access to desktop most of the time, where as online access is dependent on various external factors. Hence, there is no doubt about that a desktop version of Google would be super useful.

Having said that, I still find online Google docs very useful, considering I am on mac-osx and don&#039;t want to buy MS Office or other office packages. Don&#039;t enjoy OpenOffice version that runs on top of X11....

I have been using Google Presentation recently, love it for it&#039;s simplicity. Good enough for folks like me, who don&#039;t want to get overwhelmed by the complexity of software on the cost of complex user-interfaces. Jeff Raskin, in Humane Interface, said something like that - complex tasks would require complex user-interactions but that&#039;s no excuse to make simple tasks complex - I totally agree with him...

I also used Google spreadsheet, good enough for me :-) Buzzword rocks, it doesn&#039;t work on mobile devices - that&#039;s the only thing I miss.. I think, web applications should provide access to documents even from mobile devices, probably, if not an ability to create new documents but at-least a way to read, email, share existing documents...

BTW! Now going to read Karim&#039;s comment, heh...

Thanks

-abdul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not read Karim&#8217;s comment. I love desktop softwares, since we have access to desktop most of the time, where as online access is dependent on various external factors. Hence, there is no doubt about that a desktop version of Google would be super useful.</p>
<p>Having said that, I still find online Google docs very useful, considering I am on mac-osx and don&#8217;t want to buy MS Office or other office packages. Don&#8217;t enjoy OpenOffice version that runs on top of X11&#8230;.</p>
<p>I have been using Google Presentation recently, love it for it&#8217;s simplicity. Good enough for folks like me, who don&#8217;t want to get overwhelmed by the complexity of software on the cost of complex user-interfaces. Jeff Raskin, in Humane Interface, said something like that &#8211; complex tasks would require complex user-interactions but that&#8217;s no excuse to make simple tasks complex &#8211; I totally agree with him&#8230;</p>
<p>I also used Google spreadsheet, good enough for me <img src='http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Buzzword rocks, it doesn&#8217;t work on mobile devices &#8211; that&#8217;s the only thing I miss.. I think, web applications should provide access to documents even from mobile devices, probably, if not an ability to create new documents but at-least a way to read, email, share existing documents&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW! Now going to read Karim&#8217;s comment, heh&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>-abdul</p>
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		<title>By: Jolyon Russ</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/02/google-docs-fail-but-google-docs-adobe-air-win/comment-page-1/#comment-5021</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolyon Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In essence I agree, AIR has the potential to take Google&#039;s Docs offering to the next level.

The question you have to ask is would Google bother? Or when will Google bother?

For Google the Docs suite is a slow burner against Microsoft&#039;s incumbent, they don&#039;t have to &quot;beat&quot; anyone, they just have to exist - they don&#039;t have to set release dates - they don&#039;t have to have a public road map - they don&#039;t have to spend millions of dollars rushing out the latest version - they just have to wait until the trickle turns into a torrent.

I see Google holding out until AIR v2 before they start porting their tertiary product (let&#039;s not forget Docs is not Google primary product) to the desktop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In essence I agree, AIR has the potential to take Google&#8217;s Docs offering to the next level.</p>
<p>The question you have to ask is would Google bother? Or when will Google bother?</p>
<p>For Google the Docs suite is a slow burner against Microsoft&#8217;s incumbent, they don&#8217;t have to &#8220;beat&#8221; anyone, they just have to exist &#8211; they don&#8217;t have to set release dates &#8211; they don&#8217;t have to have a public road map &#8211; they don&#8217;t have to spend millions of dollars rushing out the latest version &#8211; they just have to wait until the trickle turns into a torrent.</p>
<p>I see Google holding out until AIR v2 before they start porting their tertiary product (let&#8217;s not forget Docs is not Google primary product) to the desktop.</p>
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