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	<title>Comments on: Linux is Ugly. Thank Goodness for AIR</title>
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		<title>By: juup</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/01/linux-is-ugly-thank-goodness-for-air/comment-page-1/#comment-114711</link>
		<dc:creator>juup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 08:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linux is HORRIBLE in every way. And worst of all, you can spend months rying to fix it and you still on&#039;t find decent icons or themes or windows frames or anything.

It is by definition a toy for the nerds and freaks, and everyone knows that they have a horrible taste and no notion of aesthetics.

Horrible like a nightmare it is. I am phobic to Linux arghhh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linux is HORRIBLE in every way. And worst of all, you can spend months rying to fix it and you still on&#8217;t find decent icons or themes or windows frames or anything.</p>
<p>It is by definition a toy for the nerds and freaks, and everyone knows that they have a horrible taste and no notion of aesthetics.</p>
<p>Horrible like a nightmare it is. I am phobic to Linux arghhh.</p>
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		<title>By: Inav Grobov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inav Grobov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 13:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Linux (Suse or Ubuntu), it more flexible. Windows look more ugly, but it is more convenient in work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Linux (Suse or Ubuntu), it more flexible. Windows look more ugly, but it is more convenient in work.</p>
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		<title>By: Yann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw,

Can&#039;t want to see AIR on my desktop, one of my reason to boot from time to time on Windows, just to check demos :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw,</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t want to see AIR on my desktop, one of my reason to boot from time to time on Windows, just to check demos <img src='http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yann</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/01/linux-is-ugly-thank-goodness-for-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4803</link>
		<dc:creator>Yann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,

I&#039;m a french ubuntu user for 2 years now. I switched from Windows because I was tired to defragment my hdd, install anti virus, getting spyware, malware, adware,ware :D. I&#039;m a flash flex coder, as my job, and truly love it. I do like butiful look and feel and I think that Gnome is getting older :D, but check what&#039;s coming : http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/12/gtk-rgba-transparent-widgets-with-the-murrine-engine/

And trust Canonical to make the next Ubuntu LTS release a lot more than the past ones. Keep us up-to-date in April ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a french ubuntu user for 2 years now. I switched from Windows because I was tired to defragment my hdd, install anti virus, getting spyware, malware, adware,ware <img src='http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> . I&#8217;m a flash flex coder, as my job, and truly love it. I do like butiful look and feel and I think that Gnome is getting older <img src='http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> , but check what&#8217;s coming : <a href="http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/12/gtk-rgba-transparent-widgets-with-the-murrine-engine/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/12/gtk-rgba-transparent-widgets-with-the-murrine-engine/</a></p>
<p>And trust Canonical to make the next Ubuntu LTS release a lot more than the past ones. Keep us up-to-date in April &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chapman</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2008/01/linux-is-ugly-thank-goodness-for-air/comment-page-1/#comment-4788</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gnome is Ugly. Thank Goodness for Air&quot;

That&#039;s as simple as I can say it.  You cannot say Linux is ugly unless you make an effort to include other desktops.  You don&#039;t understand because you are coming from a monoculture mindset.  You&#039;ve never been part of a multicultural environment like Linux.  I takes a while to learn the &quot;language&quot;.  Say what you want comparing Gnome to Air, but you are saying nothing about Linux.  Now before you label me as a Gnome firebrand, I can&#039;t stand it.  I use KDE.  But your title says KDE is ugly too and I saw no mention of you trying KDE.  Change one word in your title and I wouldn&#039;t have even bothered commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gnome is Ugly. Thank Goodness for Air&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s as simple as I can say it.  You cannot say Linux is ugly unless you make an effort to include other desktops.  You don&#8217;t understand because you are coming from a monoculture mindset.  You&#8217;ve never been part of a multicultural environment like Linux.  I takes a while to learn the &#8220;language&#8221;.  Say what you want comparing Gnome to Air, but you are saying nothing about Linux.  Now before you label me as a Gnome firebrand, I can&#8217;t stand it.  I use KDE.  But your title says KDE is ugly too and I saw no mention of you trying KDE.  Change one word in your title and I wouldn&#8217;t have even bothered commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Todd, we&#039;re going to let you create native installers with AIR 1.0 so that you can do all the stuff you mentioned. You can bundle the runtime with your app and wrap it all inside of a DMG or MSI.

@Richard I only mentioned Ubuntu because it&#039;s what I&#039;ve been running. I&#039;ve seen other versions of the desktop environment and I still think they&#039;re ugly. But other people don&#039;t, and that&#039;s perfectly fine. I realize that a lot of the Linux community doesn&#039;t want to see their stuff fluffed up. But I do. And I don&#039;t think I can be totally alone on this one. And there are a lot of benefits for AIR, I&#039;m just really exited about this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Todd, we&#8217;re going to let you create native installers with AIR 1.0 so that you can do all the stuff you mentioned. You can bundle the runtime with your app and wrap it all inside of a DMG or MSI.</p>
<p>@Richard I only mentioned Ubuntu because it&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been running. I&#8217;ve seen other versions of the desktop environment and I still think they&#8217;re ugly. But other people don&#8217;t, and that&#8217;s perfectly fine. I realize that a lot of the Linux community doesn&#8217;t want to see their stuff fluffed up. But I do. And I don&#8217;t think I can be totally alone on this one. And there are a lot of benefits for AIR, I&#8217;m just really exited about this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ryan Campbell
Actually calling Linux ugly is somewhat of a complement.  The command line was never meant to be beautiful.

@Ryan Stewart
I once spent some time with a guy from Colorado.  He was ugly.  Everyone from Colorado is ugly.  I once bought a &quot;painting&quot; from a art supply store.  It was really ugly.  All paintings are ugly.  I once installed Gnome.  I used the Gnome GDM.  I used the Gnome workspaces.  I used the Gnome menu.  I used the Gnome wallpaper.  I used the Gnome fonts.  It was all ugly.  Linux is ugly.  I hope this helps you see the glaring mistake in your unfortunate choice of words in the title of this article.  If not, I&#039;ll make it clear.

Linux is a kernel.  I know, I know, its become the generic term for GNU/Linux.  That&#039;s not a problem, I use it that way my self.  But that doesn&#039;t mean Linux is not the kernel.  From the title of your article I expected at least some mention of the top 5 or so major desktop environments.  You cannot possibly say KDE is ugly by testing Gnome.  But that is exactly what you did.  In fact you said ALL Linux desktop environments are ugly based solely on your experience with Gnome.  If some hapless newbie reads your article, she might just put off trying &quot;Linux&quot; thinking it&#039;s ugly.

Now, one more piece of information you should know about.  With many Linux desktop environments like KDE, Gnome, XFce and ELive, you are given a plain default setup.  Sort of like that &quot;painting&quot; I bought at the art supply store.  It&#039;s up to you to make it beautiful to your eyes.  Yes, it takes a little time and work, but it doesn&#039;t have to be all at once.  You were given a set of tools to configure Gnome to your liking.  If you failed to do that then some of the blame falls on your shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ryan Campbell<br />
Actually calling Linux ugly is somewhat of a complement.  The command line was never meant to be beautiful.</p>
<p>@Ryan Stewart<br />
I once spent some time with a guy from Colorado.  He was ugly.  Everyone from Colorado is ugly.  I once bought a &#8220;painting&#8221; from a art supply store.  It was really ugly.  All paintings are ugly.  I once installed Gnome.  I used the Gnome GDM.  I used the Gnome workspaces.  I used the Gnome menu.  I used the Gnome wallpaper.  I used the Gnome fonts.  It was all ugly.  Linux is ugly.  I hope this helps you see the glaring mistake in your unfortunate choice of words in the title of this article.  If not, I&#8217;ll make it clear.</p>
<p>Linux is a kernel.  I know, I know, its become the generic term for GNU/Linux.  That&#8217;s not a problem, I use it that way my self.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean Linux is not the kernel.  From the title of your article I expected at least some mention of the top 5 or so major desktop environments.  You cannot possibly say KDE is ugly by testing Gnome.  But that is exactly what you did.  In fact you said ALL Linux desktop environments are ugly based solely on your experience with Gnome.  If some hapless newbie reads your article, she might just put off trying &#8220;Linux&#8221; thinking it&#8217;s ugly.</p>
<p>Now, one more piece of information you should know about.  With many Linux desktop environments like KDE, Gnome, XFce and ELive, you are given a plain default setup.  Sort of like that &#8220;painting&#8221; I bought at the art supply store.  It&#8217;s up to you to make it beautiful to your eyes.  Yes, it takes a little time and work, but it doesn&#8217;t have to be all at once.  You were given a set of tools to configure Gnome to your liking.  If you failed to do that then some of the blame falls on your shoulders.</p>
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		<title>By: Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh,After one years of using Ubuntu, I think it doesn&#039;t fit for me.

The terminal commands doesn&#039;t convenient as GUI...

Maybe when I pass the finnal examine and attend to university,I will buy a Macbook , :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh,After one years of using Ubuntu, I think it doesn&#8217;t fit for me.</p>
<p>The terminal commands doesn&#8217;t convenient as GUI&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe when I pass the finnal examine and attend to university,I will buy a Macbook , <img src='http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha.. man Linux is a touchy subject. Calling Linux ugly is like calling their baby ugly. I do understand your point though. Linux apps are built by developers and adding AIR to Linux with bring apps built by designers.

I think the great thing about AIR on Linux is if you can find enough AIR apps to manage your daily life, why bother paying for OS X or Windows when you can get all the same great apps on Linux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha.. man Linux is a touchy subject. Calling Linux ugly is like calling their baby ugly. I do understand your point though. Linux apps are built by developers and adding AIR to Linux with bring apps built by designers.</p>
<p>I think the great thing about AIR on Linux is if you can find enough AIR apps to manage your daily life, why bother paying for OS X or Windows when you can get all the same great apps on Linux.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually prefer the look at feel of Linux to that of Windows any day, so it is quite subjective.  Linux desktops have always been quite cool.   Plus the best part about Linux ... the shell.  In fact the #1 reason I like OSX is the fact that I can stay in a shell

Regardless, having Air apps (e.g. Thwirl) on Linux only make it that much more useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually prefer the look at feel of Linux to that of Windows any day, so it is quite subjective.  Linux desktops have always been quite cool.   Plus the best part about Linux &#8230; the shell.  In fact the #1 reason I like OSX is the fact that I can stay in a shell</p>
<p>Regardless, having Air apps (e.g. Thwirl) on Linux only make it that much more useful.</p>
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