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		<title>By: GadgetScoop</title>
		<link>http://blog.digitalbackcountry.com/2007/10/adobe-air-as-the-wii/comment-page-1/#comment-4037</link>
		<dc:creator>GadgetScoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Andre&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Can Flash and AIR make the Browser and Operating System Irrelevant?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andre&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Can Flash and AIR make the Browser and Operating System Irrelevant?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A similar thing may happen with AIR.&#160; While the war between Windows, Linux and Mac wages on users and developers won&#8217;t care, they&#8217;ll just turn to AIR.&#160; But AIR isn&#8217;t powerful enough to build &#8220;real&#8221; desktop apps you say?&#160; So what!&#160; Sure it&#8217;ll be a while before we have Halo 3 or PhotoShop running and performing in Flash/Flex/AIR, maybe less than a decade though according to Bruce Chizen.&#160; We already have word processors, Wii style games and image management/editing which my grandmother and the lions share of all computer users need and/or use.&#160; I bet Adobe will have more desktop installs of Webkit with AIR than Apple with Safari.&#160; I think a few things have really accelerated Flash penetration in last few years namely video and advertising. I don&#8217;t know what the killer driver for AIR adoption is going to be yet. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A similar thing may happen with AIR.&nbsp; While the war between Windows, Linux and Mac wages on users and developers won&#8217;t care, they&#8217;ll just turn to AIR.&nbsp; But AIR isn&#8217;t powerful enough to build &#8220;real&#8221; desktop apps you say?&nbsp; So what!&nbsp; Sure it&#8217;ll be a while before we have Halo 3 or PhotoShop running and performing in Flash/Flex/AIR, maybe less than a decade though according to Bruce Chizen.&nbsp; We already have word processors, Wii style games and image management/editing which my grandmother and the lions share of all computer users need and/or use.&nbsp; I bet Adobe will have more desktop installs of Webkit with AIR than Apple with Safari.&nbsp; I think a few things have really accelerated Flash penetration in last few years namely video and advertising. I don&#8217;t know what the killer driver for AIR adoption is going to be yet. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almost all there is to say...
saj already said it.

but I always need to add somethings.
if we are talking about interaction
it&#039;s ok to develop applications
and try to innovate...
but sure, MY data stay at MY home
we have already seen what&#039;s happened
and what&#039;s happening with putting
money in banks...
it&#039;s a pity I can&#039;t say
MY money stay at MY home...
sure it can be...
but when you have/get a job
you&#039;re kind of &#039;obliged&#039; to have a bank account.
let&#039;s hope they don&#039;t &#039;push&#039; us
to be &#039;obliged&#039; to have online applications
and online data...

even if I see some advantages
I see also the disadvantages (and I don&#039;t like it)
of my habits to be tracked by
the credit_cards/bank systems...
same way...
I see some advantages in cookie/sessions
online applications tracking
BUT I also see the disadvantages...

...

you go on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almost all there is to say&#8230;<br />
saj already said it.</p>
<p>but I always need to add somethings.<br />
if we are talking about interaction<br />
it&#8217;s ok to develop applications<br />
and try to innovate&#8230;<br />
but sure, MY data stay at MY home<br />
we have already seen what&#8217;s happened<br />
and what&#8217;s happening with putting<br />
money in banks&#8230;<br />
it&#8217;s a pity I can&#8217;t say<br />
MY money stay at MY home&#8230;<br />
sure it can be&#8230;<br />
but when you have/get a job<br />
you&#8217;re kind of &#8216;obliged&#8217; to have a bank account.<br />
let&#8217;s hope they don&#8217;t &#8216;push&#8217; us<br />
to be &#8216;obliged&#8217; to have online applications<br />
and online data&#8230;</p>
<p>even if I see some advantages<br />
I see also the disadvantages (and I don&#8217;t like it)<br />
of my habits to be tracked by<br />
the credit_cards/bank systems&#8230;<br />
same way&#8230;<br />
I see some advantages in cookie/sessions<br />
online applications tracking<br />
BUT I also see the disadvantages&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>you go on</p>
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		<title>By: Jason The Saj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason The Saj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he&#039;s somewhat misguided...

I remember back in 1998 someone preaching to me how the browser was nearly over, the Xbox was never going to be released due to no games, and so on.

They were talking about Citrix, apps stored online, and a variety of &quot;cloud&quot; talk.

Now that is not to say I don&#039;t believe we will see these things. But the bandwidth between me and the web will always be less than the bandwidth between my processor and my storage drive.

Would I like to have ALL my music and movies and what not stored online so I could access them at anytime? Sure...

Am I going to trust such a place to be my &quot;only&quot; storage. Not until Hell resembles your blog photo.  This guy Abbas misses the point...

WE DON&#039;T TRUST THEM!  (We being just about all of us.) We want to keep copies of our data. What happens when the hoster of our music, movies, etc goes belly-up, changes some policy, whatever...

We find ourselves out of luck and having to re-buy everything. Of course, since we already spent the money we feel we have a right to it - don&#039;t we? So we don&#039;t re-buy. We copy...we&#039;re then label &quot;stealing&quot;. I&#039;ve been through this with the $100 in Verizon ringtones that I was told I&#039;d get credit for if I moved phones, or if my phone was damaged. Only to have that policy changes a year later.

Do I want to trust that by spending hundreds of dollars on iTunes to store my tracks for me online that I&#039;ll have those in 5 yrs unless I have hard copies?

Nope...I understand the industry quite well. They don&#039;t give us licenses but then demand we relicense whenever music is lost or stolen.  Now, would I go for such a thing if I could receive a license of every song or movie I had purchased. And that license would let me use or listen to said music anywhere. Sure...

But RIAA already told us this is &quot;stealing&quot; when MP3.com tried doing just that.

And am I supposed to trust all the photos of my newborn baby girl to some online system. As a back up and share tool...I&#039;d love it.  But no...I&#039;m just not going to trust such services.

Oh they&#039;re great for the individual who has a few hundred photos and maybe 50 CDs. They&#039;re not satisfactory for someone who can shoot 4 gigs of photos in a week and owns closer to 2,000 CDs.

This is where AIR excels. It&#039;s the &quot;Best of Both Worlds&quot;.  We get local access and online access. When the connection is down I&#039;m not dead in the water.

- Saj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#8217;s somewhat misguided&#8230;</p>
<p>I remember back in 1998 someone preaching to me how the browser was nearly over, the Xbox was never going to be released due to no games, and so on.</p>
<p>They were talking about Citrix, apps stored online, and a variety of &#8220;cloud&#8221; talk.</p>
<p>Now that is not to say I don&#8217;t believe we will see these things. But the bandwidth between me and the web will always be less than the bandwidth between my processor and my storage drive.</p>
<p>Would I like to have ALL my music and movies and what not stored online so I could access them at anytime? Sure&#8230;</p>
<p>Am I going to trust such a place to be my &#8220;only&#8221; storage. Not until Hell resembles your blog photo.  This guy Abbas misses the point&#8230;</p>
<p>WE DON&#8217;T TRUST THEM!  (We being just about all of us.) We want to keep copies of our data. What happens when the hoster of our music, movies, etc goes belly-up, changes some policy, whatever&#8230;</p>
<p>We find ourselves out of luck and having to re-buy everything. Of course, since we already spent the money we feel we have a right to it &#8211; don&#8217;t we? So we don&#8217;t re-buy. We copy&#8230;we&#8217;re then label &#8220;stealing&#8221;. I&#8217;ve been through this with the $100 in Verizon ringtones that I was told I&#8217;d get credit for if I moved phones, or if my phone was damaged. Only to have that policy changes a year later.</p>
<p>Do I want to trust that by spending hundreds of dollars on iTunes to store my tracks for me online that I&#8217;ll have those in 5 yrs unless I have hard copies?</p>
<p>Nope&#8230;I understand the industry quite well. They don&#8217;t give us licenses but then demand we relicense whenever music is lost or stolen.  Now, would I go for such a thing if I could receive a license of every song or movie I had purchased. And that license would let me use or listen to said music anywhere. Sure&#8230;</p>
<p>But RIAA already told us this is &#8220;stealing&#8221; when MP3.com tried doing just that.</p>
<p>And am I supposed to trust all the photos of my newborn baby girl to some online system. As a back up and share tool&#8230;I&#8217;d love it.  But no&#8230;I&#8217;m just not going to trust such services.</p>
<p>Oh they&#8217;re great for the individual who has a few hundred photos and maybe 50 CDs. They&#8217;re not satisfactory for someone who can shoot 4 gigs of photos in a week and owns closer to 2,000 CDs.</p>
<p>This is where AIR excels. It&#8217;s the &#8220;Best of Both Worlds&#8221;.  We get local access and online access. When the connection is down I&#8217;m not dead in the water.</p>
<p>- Saj</p>
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